What is a Garbage Plate?
It is the dish this channel is named after, and if you have never had one, here is the whole thing. A Garbage Plate is two sides on the bottom, meat on top of them, a spiced meat sauce poured over the lot, then raw onions and mustard, with bread and butter on the side. It comes from one restaurant in Rochester, New York, it has a federal trademark, and that trademark is why everywhere else in this city sells you a trash plate instead. Nobody eats one with a plan.
Everything on this page names where it came from and the day it was read, which is how the rest of this site handles a price and is the only honest way to handle a history. Where we could not source something, it is not here, and there is a list further down of exactly what that means.

What is actually on one
There is no fixed recipe, which is the first thing to understand about it. A plate is assembled to order out of a short list of parts, and the list below is Nick Tahou Hots' own: every item on it is a box you tick on the order form the restaurant publishes for phone and fax orders.
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Two sides, on the bottom
Macaroni salad, home fries, french fries or baked beans. Those four are the whole list on Nick Tahou Hots' order form and you tick the ones you want. Two is the number, and two Rochester, NY kitchens say so in writing: Steve T. Hots & Potatoes prints "Choice of 2 with plates", and Bill Gray's describes its plates as served over 2 side orders. Macaroni salad and home fries is the pair most people mean when they say a plate.
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The meat, on top of the sides
Cheeseburger, hamburger, red hot dog, white hot dog, italian sausage, chicken tender, fried ham, fish fry, grilled cheese, or the veggie plate. Ten choices on the order form, and the red and white hots are a Rochester, NY distinction rather than a typo: a white hot is a pale pork, beef and veal dog that is a local thing in its own right.
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Hot sauce, poured over the lot
The order form calls it Nick's Hot Sauce and it is the thing that makes the plate a plate rather than a tray of sides. It is a loose spiced ground meat sauce, and it goes over the whole plate rather than on one part of it. Fairport Hots is famous, in its own words, for its "Homemade Meat Hot Sauce", which tells you where the argument is around here.
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Chopped raw onions
A tick box on Nick Tahou Hots' order form, and standard unless you say otherwise. Steve T. Hots & Potatoes puts it beyond doubt on its own menu: "On plates, everything includes: Hot Sauce, Mustard, Onions".
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Mustard
The other tick box, and the other third of that same Steve T. line. Yellow mustard, striped over the top.
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Bread and butter, on the side
Italian bread, buttered. Steve T. Hots & Potatoes says its plates are "Served with Italian Bread or Rolls", and Visit Rochester says a plate is usually served with a side of buttered bread. Alex Tahou's account of the original hots and potatoes has two pieces of Italian bread and butter on it as well, so this is the part of the dish that never changed.


Where it came from
Told in the order it happened, with the source for every claim on the claim itself. Two of these are primary: a federal trademark file, and the restaurant's own order form.
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1918
A hot dog stand on West Main Street
Nick Tahou Hots dates itself to 1918, and it is the restaurant itself saying so: the front page of its own site carries the line "A Rochester tradition since 1918!" and not much else. The shop was called West Main Texas Hots before it was called anything else.

The 1918 date, on the restaurant's own wall in 2007. This page dates the shop and not the dish, and this is one of the two places the business states the shop's date about itself. Photograph by Eugene Peretz, CC BY-SA 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons. Source: Nick Tahou Hots, garbageplate.com. Read August 20, 2026.
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Who founded it
The one fact the sources disagree about
Nick Tahou Hots' own site quotes Wikipedia saying the restaurant "was founded by its namesake, Nick Tahou, who died in 1997 after running the establishment for over 50 years". Wikipedia's article today says something different: that Alexander Tahou, a Greek immigrant, founded it in 1918 and named it for his son Nick. Both cannot be right, and a business quoting an encyclopedia about its own founder is not the same as a business stating it. This page prints the disagreement rather than picking a winner.
Source: Nick Tahou Hots, garbageplate.com. Read August 20, 2026.
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The original
It was hots and potatoes, and the beans were cold
The dish did not start as a Garbage Plate and did not start with most of what is on one now. Alex Tahou, the founder's grandson, described the original to Tasting Table in 2024.
The original plate was hot dogs called hots and potatoes. It was hot dogs, home fries, cold beans, not hot, and two pieces of Italian bread and butter
Alex TahouSource: Tasting Table, "The Rochester Garbage Plate Is A Delicious Hot Mess", Robyn Song, March 9, 2024. Read August 20, 2026.
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1963 and 1968
The restaurant moved into a railroad station
The building at 320 West Main Street was never built to be a restaurant. The Rochester & Genesee Valley Railroad Museum records that its oldest part went up in 1877 as offices for the Pitkin Building and Monumental Steam Stone Works, that the railroad bought it in 1881 and expanded it into a passenger terminal, and that the Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh became part of the Baltimore & Ohio system in 1932. Tahou bought the station in September 1963 for $43,000, and the move down the block waited until the original shop was demolished in 1968.

The building from the street in 2008. The brick block on the left is the old passenger terminal the restaurant moved into, gables and arched windows and all, and the railroad bridge beyond it is the rest of the reason it is there. Photograph by Doug Kerr, CC BY-SA 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons. Source: Rochester & Genesee Valley Railroad Museum, "Nick Tahou and the BR&P Connection", Otto M. Vondrak, March 4, 2021. Read August 20, 2026.
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The name
College kids named it, and the family fought it
Nobody at the restaurant chose the word. Students coming out of the bars would point at somebody else's dinner and order it by description, and the description stuck hard enough that the family gave up and put it on the sign.
Guys would come in after drinking, and they'd see somebody that had a plate, have no idea what it was, and just say, give me a plate with all that garbage on it
Alex Tahou
The counter, in 2025. Every order here is said out loud across it, which is how a description of somebody else's dinner ended up being the name of the dish. Photograph by Paul Lowry, CC BY 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons. Source: Tasting Table, "The Rochester Garbage Plate Is A Delicious Hot Mess", Robyn Song, March 9, 2024. Read August 20, 2026.
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1991 to 1992
GARBAGE PLATE became a federal trademark
This is the part of the story that is written down in a government file rather than retold, and the dates in that file are worth having exactly right. Nick Tahou Hots, Inc. of 320 West Main Street filed for the mark GARBAGE PLATE on July 29, 1991. It registered on August 18, 1992 as registration number 1,708,448 on the Principal Register, in class 029, and it is still live: the record shows the registration has been renewed.
prepared entrees consisting primarily of one of the following, hot dogs without buns, hamburgers without buns, steak, pork chops, sausage, ham, fish or eggs and processed potatoes and processed beans
the registration's own description of the goods
The mark, printed around the rim of the plate it belongs to, in May 2005. The photographer released this one into the public domain, so it is the only picture on this page that carries no conditions at all. Photograph by Wikimedia Commons user Evadb, released into the public domain, via Wikimedia Commons. Source: United States Patent and Trademark Office, TSDR record for serial 74189085. Read August 20, 2026.
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Ever since
Which is why everybody else sells a trash plate
One restaurant owns the name, so every other kitchen in Rochester, NY serving the same idea calls it something else. Trash plate, Rochester plate, sloppy plate, junkyard plate at dogTown, and at the vegan place, a compost plate. The dish is nobody's property and the two words are, which is the whole reason the menus around here read like a thesaurus. Alex Tahou put the position plainly in 2024.
We're trademarked, and we're still the only garbage plate
Alex TahouSources: Tasting Table, "The Rochester Garbage Plate Is A Delicious Hot Mess", Robyn Song, March 9, 2024; United States Patent and Trademark Office, TSDR record for serial 74189085; dogTown Hots, its own menu. Read August 20, 2026.
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2017
The baseball team renamed itself after it
For one home game on August 10, 2017 the Rochester Red Wings played as the Rochester Plates, in caps and jerseys with a Garbage Plate on them. 13WHAM carried the announcement five weeks out and Spectrum News NY1 filed from the ballpark on the night, which is how this page knows the game was played and not just planned. Their general manager Dan Mason told 13WHAM why, and it is as good a one line summary of the dish's standing in this city as anybody has managed.
There is nothing more Rochester than the Garbage Plate. There isn't another food item that Rochesterians are more proud of or that is more celebrated in our city than the Garbage Plate and we can't wait to take the field as the Plates!
Dan Mason, Red Wings general managerSources: 13WHAM, "Rochester Red Wings to become the Rochester Plates to honor the Garbage Plate", July 4, 2017; Spectrum News NY1, "Red Wings serve up history as Rochester Plates", August 10, 2017. Read August 20, 2026.
What this page does not know
A short sourced history beats a long plausible one. These are the things that get repeated about the Garbage Plate that could not be sourced on August 20, 2026, so they are not stated above. They are written down here rather than left out silently, so nobody has to research them twice.
- WHEN THE FIRST GARBAGE PLATE WAS SERVED. Not the restaurant, the dish. Nothing reachable states a date for it, the accounts that give one give a decade, and the trademark file records when the NAME was filed rather than when the food was first sold. So this page dates the restaurant and the trademark and says openly that the dish's own start date is not documented.
- THAT THE PLATE IS 100 YEARS OLD. 13WHAM's 2017 story says the Garbage Plate marked its 100th anniversary that year, which would put it at 1917, while the restaurant dates ITSELF to 1918 and the dish was called something else for most of a century. An anniversary of the shop is not an anniversary of the dish and this page does not merge them.
- THE HOT SAUCE RECIPE, AND WHERE IT CAME FROM. Several retellings say the meat sauce came from a Mexican friend's family recipe. Every version of that traces back to the same handful of articles rather than to the family, none of the sources reachable here states it first hand, and a recipe's origin is exactly the kind of claim that hardens by repetition. Left out.
- CALORIE COUNTS. Numbers between 1,000 and 3,000 are quoted all over the internet for a plate. No restaurant publishes one, the plate is built to order out of four possible sides and ten possible meats, so there is no single dish to count, and this site does not print a number it cannot source.
- EATER'S 2017 FEATURE AND THE DEMOCRAT AND CHRONICLE'S 2020 PIECE. Both are cited by Wikipedia as the source for several of the claims above and neither could be fetched on August 20, 2026, so nothing on this page rests on either. If a later editor can read them, the founder question in the history above is the thing to settle.
Where to eat one
This is a list and not a ranking. Nick Tahou Hots is first because it is where the dish comes from and it holds the trademark, which is a matter of record rather than an opinion about dinner; everything after it is in alphabetical order. Nobody here paid to be on it and there are no affiliate links on this site.
A place goes on this list only if its OWN site or its OWN online menu says it serves a plate. Being called great on a food blog is not evidence that a kitchen still makes one, and a listing site saying so is worth even less.
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320 West Main Street, June 2025. Photograph by Paul Lowry, CC BY 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons. Nick Tahou Hots
The originalCalls it: Garbage Plate
Where it comes from and the only kitchen on earth entitled to those two words. It is in the old Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh railroad terminal, a block from Frontier Field, and it has been on this street since 1918.
- Where
- 320 W. Main St., Rochester, NY 14608
- Phone
- 585-436-0184
- Open
- Not confirmed. Their own site publishes none, and it has not been updated since 2021. Call before you go.
The second location on West Henrietta Road is gone. Their own site lists West Main and nothing else.
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Bill Gray's in Henrietta, June 2011, and the only one of the thirteen anybody has photographed under a free license. The photographer's own description on Commons calls it the chain's flagship; their locations page lists thirteen shops and singles out none of them, so that is his word rather than theirs. Photograph by DanielPenfield, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons. Bill Gray's
Calls it: Great Plate • price not published
The local chain, and the one you can get to from anywhere in the county. Their own gluten free menu describes a Great Plate as a cheeseburger or hot dog served over 2 side orders, which is the plate build in nine words.
- Open
- Not confirmed. Their locations page lists thirteen addresses and no hours for any of them. Call before you go.
No single address here on purpose: it is thirteen shops and picking one would send you past two others.
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Chili Hots
Calls it: Cheeseburger Plate and twelve more • $10.00 to $18.50
The most complete priced plate menu anybody in this city publishes: thirteen of them, from a $10 Jr Plate up to an $18.50 Shaved Steak Plate, counting a meatless plate, a half plate and a split plate for anyone who has been sensibly warned.
- Where
- 3774 Chili Ave, Rochester, NY 14624
- Phone
- (585) 534-8649
- Open
- Mon to Sat 11am to 10pm, Sun noon to 10pmconfirmed on their own site, August 20, 2026
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A plate from dogTown, April 9, 2024. Photograph by BanjoZebra, CC BY 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons. dogTown Hots
Calls it: Dog Plate, Cheeseburger Plate, Split Plate
The Monroe Avenue hot dog shop, and the one with a vegetarian and vegan plate that people order on purpose rather than as a compromise. Their own site claims a Best Rochester Plate run of more than ten years.
- Where
- 691 Monroe Ave, Rochester, NY 14607
- Phone
- 585-271-6620
- Open
- Not confirmed. Their own site reads "Open 11AM to 10:45pm Daily Closed Sundays", which cannot be both, so this page will not pick one for you. Call before you go.
Their own menu files the dish under two headings that both say Junkyard: Junkyard Plates and Junkyard Dog Plates. The individual plates on those lists are named for the meat, and they publish no prices.
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Empire Hots
Calls it: Trash Plate • $13.39 to $17.79
Calls itself Home of the Trash Plate on its own front page, and backs it with eleven of them on the menu. This is the clearest example anywhere of what the trademark actually does to a menu: same dish, different two words.
- Where
- 2209 Empire Boulevard, Webster, NY 14580
- Phone
- (585) 787-2110
- Open
- Sun to Thu 11am to 10pm, Fri and Sat 11am to midnightconfirmed on their own site, August 20, 2026
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Fairport Hots
Calls it: Godfather Plate, Varsity Plate, Jr. Varsity • $12.99 to $19.79
East side, open late, and the only place on this list that sizes its plates like a football roster. The Godfather is four hots or burgers. Their own words are famous for our Hot Plates, Fish Fry's, and Homemade Meat Hot Sauce.
- Where
- 1226 Fairport Rd, Fairport, NY 14450
- Phone
- (585) 586-4540
- Open
- Sun to Wed 10:30am to 11:30pm, Thu 10:30am to midnight, Fri and Sat 10:30am to 1amconfirmed on their own site, August 20, 2026
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Henrietta Hots
Calls it: Cheeseburger plate, and the Junker
The one nearest RIT, which is most of the explanation. Zweigle's hots, a Friday fish fry, and a plate their own site names but does not price.
- Where
- 4018 West Henrietta Road, Rochester, NY 14623
- Phone
- (585) 424-4687
- Open
- Mon and Tue 11am to 11pm, Wed to Sat 11am to midnight, Sun 11am to 10pmconfirmed on their own site, August 20, 2026
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Jeremiah's Tavern
Calls it: The 1104 Plate • $17.50
A tavern rather than a hots counter, so this is the version you can sit down and have a beer with. The plate is named after the address: two cheeseburgers, macaroni salad and french fries under burger hot sauce, mustard and onions.
- Where
- 1104 Monroe Ave, Rochester, NY 14620
- Phone
- 585-461-1313
- Open
- Sun to Wed 11am to 11pm, Thu to Sat 11am to midnightconfirmed on their own site, August 20, 2026
Three more at 1175 Jefferson Road, 300 Paddy Creek Circle and 2164 Fairport Nine Mile Road, all with their own hours on the locations page. The hours above are Monroe Avenue's.
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A Compost Plate at The Red Fern, July 27, 2024. Photograph by BanjoZebra, CC BY 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons. The Red Fern
Calls it: Compost Plate
A hundred percent vegan restaurant whose own site calls the Compost Plate their healthy version of Rochester's infamous Garbage Plate. It is the best named plate in the city, and the only one on this list where the whole kitchen is vegan rather than one line of the menu.
- Where
- 283 Oxford Street, Rochester, NY 14607
- Phone
- 585-563-7633
- Open
- Tue to Thu 11am to 9pm, Fri and Sat 11am to 9:30pm, closed Sun and Monconfirmed on their own site, August 20, 2026
Last seating is fifteen minutes before close, which their own contact page says and which is easy to lose an evening to.
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Rohrbach Brewing Company
Calls it: Rohrbach Classic Plate • $16.00
A brewery that put a plate on the menu, which around here counts as civic duty. There is a Bourbon Fried Chicken Plate at $17 and a Das German Plate at $22 beside it.
- Where
- 3859 Buffalo Road, Rochester, NY 14624
- Phone
- 585-594-9800
- Open
- Mon 11am to 9pm, Tue to Thu 11am to 11pm, Fri 11am to midnight, Sat 11:30am to midnight, Sun noon to 9pmconfirmed on their own site, August 20, 2026
The Buffalo Road brewpub only. Their Railroad Street beer hall is a different menu with no plate on it, and the kitchen closes an hour before the bar does.
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Steve T. Hots & Potatoes
Calls it: Hots and Potatoes, and twelve more • $11.50 to $16.50
The other Tahou counter, and the one still selling the dish under its original name: Hots and Potatoes, $15.00. Open until 3:30am on a Friday, which is the hour this whole dish was invented for.
- Where
- 2260 Lyell Ave, Rochester, NY 14606
- Phone
- 585-429-6388
- Open
- Sun to Thu 10am to midnight, Fri and Sat 10am to 3:30amconfirmed on their own site, August 20, 2026
Their own site says the dining room stops seating at 1am every night, so past that it is a counter and a car.
Addresses and links were checked on August 20, 2026. Opening hours are only printed where the restaurant states them on its own site, and every other card says so instead of guessing. Restaurants move, change hands and change their hours, so call before you make a trip of it.
Places we checked and left off
Every one of these turns up on somebody's list of the best plates in Rochester, NY. None of them could be confirmed from the business itself, so none of them are above. They are written down here so nobody researches them again, and so you know the list is short on purpose.
- Schaller's. Their own menu was read in full on August 20, 2026 and the word plate does not appear on it once: the headings are burgers and sandwiches, extras, drinks and souvenirs. Blogs and directories say they serve a plate. Their menu does not, and a listicle is not evidence a kitchen still makes something.
- Mark's Texas Hots. markstexashots.com does not resolve at all, so there is no business-owned source for an address, an hour or a menu. Every listing for it is a directory repeating another directory. Somebody should call them.
- Sticky Lips BBQ. Their own site has been reduced to a placeholder reading that it will be available soon, and the page that used to hold the Sticky Icky Plate redirects to it. That is exactly the shape of a closure and this page will not send anybody there on a guess.
- Tom Wahl's. Their homepage names no plate, and their menu is served from an ordering platform that returned nothing readable. The Junker plate is widely reported by other people and by nobody at Tom Wahl's.
- John's Tex Mex. Their menu page answered 403, so nothing about it could be confirmed from the business.
- Hot Shots on Chili Avenue. There is no such restaurant. The Chili Avenue plate shop is Chili Hots and it is on the list above.
Every source on this page
All of them were read on August 20, 2026.
- United States Patent and Trademark Office, TSDR record for serial 74189085 The federal trademark file for GARBAGE PLATE. This is the government's own record and it is the only source on the page that cannot be a retelling of another source.
- Nick Tahou Hots, garbageplate.com The restaurant's own site. Small, and it quotes Wikipedia for its own history, which is worth knowing before treating it as the last word on the founder.
- Nick Tahou Hots, printable fax order form The business listing every component of its own Garbage Plate, in its own words, as boxes you tick. It is the best single source on the page for what is actually on one.
- Rochester & Genesee Valley Railroad Museum, "Nick Tahou and the BR&P Connection", Otto M. Vondrak, March 4, 2021 A railroad museum on the building, which is the half of the story the food writing skips.
- Tasting Table, "The Rochester Garbage Plate Is A Delicious Hot Mess", Robyn Song, March 9, 2024 On the record with Alex Tahou, the founder's grandson. Every quote attributed to the family on this page comes from here.
- 13WHAM, "Rochester Red Wings to become the Rochester Plates to honor the Garbage Plate", July 4, 2017 Local television on the ANNOUNCEMENT: it is dated July 4, 2017, five weeks before the game, so it is the source for the plan and for Dan Mason's words and not for the game having happened.
- Spectrum News NY1, "Red Wings serve up history as Rochester Plates", August 10, 2017 Filed at 11:26pm on the night of the game itself, which is what makes it the source for the game having actually been played rather than only announced.
- Visit Rochester, "What is That? A Guide to The Rochester Garbage Plate" Monroe County's own tourism board. Useful for what a plate is generally understood to be around here, and for which restaurants it names.
- dogTown Hots, its own menu The Monroe Avenue shop listing its own plates, under two headings that both say Junkyard: Junkyard Plates and Junkyard Dog Plates. It is the only business on this page that files the dish under that word.
- Steve T. Hots & Potatoes, stevethots.com The other Tahou counter, on Lyell Avenue, and the second business on this page to publish its own plate build. Its menu states the rule in one line: two sides, and the hot sauce, mustard and onions come as standard.
- Bill Gray's, gluten free menu (PDF on their own site) A third independent statement of the same build, from a chain with thirteen locations: GREAT PLATES, described as a cheeseburger or hot dog served over 2 side orders.
Where the photographs came from
Every photograph on this page is somebody else's work under a free license, checked on that file's own page on Wikimedia Commons on August 20, 2026 and re-checked from Commons on every run of scripts/sync-plate-photos.py. Nothing here is hotlinked, cropped or taken from a restaurant, a review site or a search result. The photographer, the license and a link to the license are printed under every picture.
- The photographer's own description names the restaurant, which is why this is on this card: "Junkyard Plate with hot dogs, macaroni salad, home fries, meat sauce, diced onions, and mustard, from Dogtown in Rochester, New York", and the file's camera position, 43.1439 by -77.5898, is Monroe Avenue at that address. The photographer's title matches the menu: dogTown files the dish under Junkyard Plates, and a second section under Junkyard Dog Plates, read on their own site on August 20, 2026. The individual items under those headings are a Dog Plate, a Cheeseburger Plate, a Split Plate and a Sausage Plate, so the word is the section and not the dish name printed on any one line.
- The photographer's own description names the restaurant: "Compost Plate at The Red Fern in Rochester, New York", and the file's camera position, 43.1498 by -77.5864, is Oxford Street at that address.
- WHAT SEVEN OF THE ELEVEN RESTAURANTS LOOK LIKE. Four of them are on this page in freely licensed photographs and the other seven are not. Bill Gray's joined the three on August 20, 2026, on a second search that went wider than Commons. The other seven were searched a SECOND and then a THIRD time the same day, the third by Wikidata P18, by KartaView and by a re-run of Commons and Openverse against fresh geocodes, and they still have nothing publishable. Those cards carry no picture rather than a borrowed one.
- WHERE THE SEARCHES LOOKED, so nobody repeats them. Commons was swept four ways on August 20, 2026: a title search per business, an insource: search of every file description, the local categories (Restaurants in Rochester, Fairport, Henrietta, Chili, Gates, Webster, Monroe County) and a GEOSEARCH of a 1,500m circle around all eight addresses. Commons holds exactly two files naming any of the seven and both are Bill Gray's. Openverse was then swept across roughly forty queries with its license filter set to CC BY, CC BY-SA, CC0 and public domain, which is Flickr and Commons together. Chili Hots, Empire Hots, Fairport Hots, Henrietta Hots, Jeremiah's Tavern and Steve T. Hots return NOTHING under a free license anywhere: what exists of them on Flickr is all NonCommercial or NoDerivatives, and neither is usable here. A THIRD SWEEP THE SAME DAY re-ran all of it against fresh geocodes for the seven addresses and added the queries the first two had not made: insource: on each street NUMBER as well as each name, the category tree under Restaurants in New York (state), and a Commons geosearch at 120m, 600m, 1,500m and 10km around every one of the seven. NOT ONE geotagged Commons file sits within 130m of any of them; the closest is a school 132m from Fairport Hots, and the nearest thing to a restaurant is the takeout-carton photograph already rejected below, 1,255m from Henrietta Hots.
- THE FLICKR SWEEPS HAD A HOLE IN THEM AND IT WAS FOUND AND CLOSED ON 20 AUGUST 2026, and it is the reusable half of this whole exercise. Flickr filters a search by numeric license code, and the codes the first two sweeps passed were 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10. That set OMITS 11 and 12, which are CC BY 4.0 and CC BY-SA 4.0, both free and both in active use, so every earlier "nothing free exists" was measured through a filter that could not see two free licenses. All seven names, all seven street names and a 1km geographic search around all seven addresses were re-run with 11 and 12 added. It still comes back empty. The negative holds, and it now holds for the right reason. IF YOU SWEEP FLICKR AGAIN, PASS 4,5,7,8,9,10,11,12.
- AND THE SHARPER VERSION OF THE NEGATIVE, which is worth more than "nothing exists" because it says what is actually out there. Photographs of these places DO exist on Flickr and they are not free, read off each result's own license field rather than trusted to a filter: Henrietta Hots was shot by drpep in 2024 and is ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, and Rohrbach has about nine photographs by pearwood, every one of them CC BY-NC-ND. NonCommercial and NoDerivatives both fail here. Three prolific free-license photographers who work this region were identified and cleared one by one: Warren LeMay, who shot Rochester, NY in April 2024 under CC BY-SA 2.0 and photographed downtown landmarks only; Random Retail, who shoots chain retail; and Paul Lowry, whose CC BY 4.0 Rochester, NY food photographs are four of the eleven pictures already on this page and include none of the seven. On Commons the complete upload lists of the region's two most systematic contributors were dumped and searched, 4,529 files by DanielPenfield and 5,000 by Andre Carrotflower, with zero hits. So this is not an absence of searching any more. These are small suburban businesses that nobody has photographed under a free license.
- MAPILLARY WAS RE-EXAMINED ON 20 AUGUST 2026 AND HALF OF THE FIRST REJECTION'S REASONING WAS WRONG. This note used to say Mapillary states "no version number anywhere". That was true of mapillary.com/terms and false as a statement about Mapillary. mapillary.com/osm, under the heading "Rights for OpenStreetMap", says in as many words "Mapillary images are available under an open license (CC BY-SA)" and links creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/, and Wikimedia Commons' own Template:Mapillary, which is the template a Commons upload of a Mapillary frame is built from, hardcodes {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} and credits the photographer's USERNAME linked to their Mapillary profile rather than a logo. Both were read on August 20, 2026, the second off the template's own wikitext. So the default license is CC BY-SA 4.0, it carries a version, and a page states it. The sentence that claimed otherwise was a report on ONE page written as a statement about the source, which is the third time that shape of error has been found on this page.
- WHAT STILL STOPS MAPILLARY, and both halves were checked this time rather than assumed. Section 3 of the terms grants CC BY-SA "unless we indicate otherwise" and names CC BY-NC-SA as a live alternative, and Mapillary's own API documentation lists every field an Image carries (creator, captured_at, geometry, camera_type, the thumb urls and so on) and there is NO license field among them. So the carve-out has nothing per-image to check it against, and that is a gap in what the API publishes rather than a gap in anybody's search. Section 11 then says that an image "downloaded and served from your own servers" must be attributed "by visibly displaying the Mapillary logo and linking back to the Mapillary homepage or corresponding Mapillary image page", which is a condition on top of naming the photographer rather than instead of it. Read on mapillary.com/terms and the developer documentation on August 20, 2026.
- AND THE PRACTICAL BLOCKER, WHICH IS THE ONE TO FIX FIRST AND IS NOT A LICENSE QUESTION AT ALL. Nothing on Mapillary can be reached from this repo without an API token and this repo holds none: every mapillary.com address answers a generic Meta error page, graph.mapillary.com answers "Invalid OAuth 2.0 Access Token", and tiles.mapillary.com answers 403. That means no frame, no photographer's username and no image page, so there is nothing to fetch and nothing to print a credit from. The coverage this note used to quote (70 frames past Bill Gray's, 50 past Fairport Hots, six each past Chili Hots and Empire Hots) could NOT be re-measured on August 20, 2026 and should not be quoted as current. A token is free to register at mapillary.com/developer; put one in .env and this becomes a real lead again rather than an argument.
- KARTAVIEW WAS CHECKED THE SAME DAY BECAUSE MAPILLARY COULD NOT BE, and it is the other open street-level library. Its nearby-photos API needs no token, and it does hold Rochester, NY: 101 frames within 300m of downtown. Around the seven it holds nothing that shows a building. The nearest frame to any of them is 312m from Chili Hots and 415m from Jeremiah's Tavern, and Empire Hots, Fairport Hots, Henrietta Hots, Rohrbach and Steve T. Hots have no frame within 600m at all. A frame 300m up the road is a picture of somebody else's building.
- WIKIDATA P18 WAS THE ROUTE NOBODY HAD RUN, AND IT WAS RUN ON 20 AUGUST 2026. Only three of the eleven restaurants have a Wikidata item at all, which are Nick Tahou Hots, Bill Gray's and Rohrbach Brewing Company, and a geographic query for businesses within 25km of Rochester, NY returns 19 items and none of the other eight. Rohrbach's item carries a P18 nobody here had seen: File:RohrbachBeer1.JPG, PUBLIC DOMAIN, User:Brian Stiehler, shot September 17, 2010, 3000x4000, a red brick block with Rohrbach's own hanging ROHRBACH THE BREWERY banner on it. The license is perfect and it is the WRONG BUILDING, which was settled off the PHOTOGRAPH rather than off its caption: hanging beside the banner is a second sign reading DEEP DISCOUNT STORAGE, 127 RAILROAD ST. This page's Rohrbach card is the Buffalo Road brewpub, 14.5km from Railroad Street. That is now the second Railroad Street photograph rejected here for the same reason. The same uploader's File:RohrbachBeer2.JPG is brewing tanks indoors in 2008 and names no address at all.
- "55/365 Rohrbach Brewing Company", CC BY-SA 2.0, RLHyde (Ryan Hyde), July 5, 2014, verified on its own Flickr page. The license is fine and the file was fetched and looked at. It is an interior door, not a storefront, and what is written across the glass is the TASTING ROOM HOURS: Wed to Fri 10am to 5pm, Saturday 9am to 4pm, tours every hour. Those are twelve years stale, this page's one hard rule is that hours come from the business and nothing else, and a card showing a reader an hours board is a card that gets read instead of the line beside it. It also cannot be placed: the card is the Buffalo Road brewpub only, and nothing in the photograph or its description says which of the two Rohrbach sites it is. Left out on the picture rather than on the license.
- "Rohrbach's on Railroad Street", CC BY 2.0, bert_m_b. Free and usable, and it is the WRONG BUILDING: this page's Rohrbach card is the Buffalo Road brewpub, and its own note says the Railroad Street beer hall is a different menu with no plate on it. A correctly licensed photograph of the wrong address is still the wrong address.
- File:Rochester Garbage Plate.jpg, CC BY-SA 3.0, Douglas.flowe, November 27, 2013. The license is fine and the file was fetched and looked at. It is a dim phone photograph of a takeout carton and its own description names no restaurant, only "Variation on garbage plate with salt potatoes and bacon", so there is no card it belongs on and nothing it shows that a brighter picture on this page does not. Left out on the picture rather than on the license.
- EVERY IMAGE SEARCH RESULT, EVERY RESTAURANT'S OWN SITE AND SOCIAL FEED, EVERY REVIEW SITE, AND STREET VIEW. None of them state a license a static site can meet, and being flattering to a restaurant is not a license from the person who took the photograph. If you want a picture of a place on this list that has none, the two honest routes are to shoot it yourself or to write to the photographer and get it in writing.
- WHAT IS STILL GENUINELY UNCHECKED, said out loud so the next person starts here rather than at the beginning. TWO THINGS. Mapillary, which needs an API token this repo does not have, for the reasons three entries above. And PICRYL, which answered 403 from behind Cloudflare on August 20, 2026 to every attempt; it aggregates the Library of Congress, NARA, the Smithsonian and the NYPL, all of which are historical public-domain collections, so a 1990s suburban hot dog stand is unlikely to be in it, but unlikely is not checked. Everything else named on this page is a verified negative.
Hungry for the other local pages? The card shops around Rochester, NY are where this channel actually buys, the card show calendar has everything coming up around Rochester, NY, Buffalo and Syracuse, and about the channel explains what Garbage Rips 585 is and why it is named after dinner.
NOT SPONSORED AND NOT AFFILIATE LINKS. NOBODY PAID TO BE ON THIS PAGE. IF YOU RUN A PLACE AROUND ROCHESTER THAT SERVES A PLATE AND YOU ARE NOT ON HERE, EMAIL ME.
Send the name, the address and what it is called on your menu, and attach a photo of the plate: email the channel.